Efferendil Poem Decoded - Revision history

imported>Ianlogic at 13:11, 16 April 2018

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	We know that they ended up in the Efferendil in the original story. A ‘shattered’ world is very similar to what you encounter in the Astral, with random pockets of land scattered amongst nothingness. I think the point here is that they are using the Astral to travel and then the natural Astral gate/portal to re-renter the Prime in [[Walorin]]’s House in the [[Efferendil]].		We know that they ended up in the Efferendil in the original story. A ‘shattered’ world is very similar to what you encounter in the Astral, with random pockets of land scattered amongst nothingness. I think the point here is that they are using the Astral to travel and then the natural Astral gate/portal to re-renter the Prime in [[Walorin]]’s House in the [[Efferendil]].

	This ends in the Efferendil - probably in the Glade because of the Astral link but possibly Walorin's House.		This ends in the '''Efferendil''' - probably in the Glade because of the Astral link but possibly Walorin's House.
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imported>Ianlogic at 13:10, 16 April 2018

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	We know that they ended up in the Efferendil in the original story. A ‘shattered’ world is very similar to what you encounter in the Astral, with random pockets of land scattered amongst nothingness. I think the point here is that they are using the Astral to travel and then the natural Astral gate/portal to re-renter the Prime in [[Walorin]]’s House in the [[Efferendil]].		We know that they ended up in the Efferendil in the original story. A ‘shattered’ world is very similar to what you encounter in the Astral, with random pockets of land scattered amongst nothingness. I think the point here is that they are using the Astral to travel and then the natural Astral gate/portal to re-renter the Prime in [[Walorin]]’s House in the [[Efferendil]].

	~~Traversing~~ the ~~Inner Planes this puts us back to ‘square one’~~ in ~~Walorin’s House when travelling via the Portal. Not sure what it would do travelling via~~ the Glade ~~Pool but it should still be CG...'''Olympus'''? or '''Mt Olympus on~~ the Astral'''		This ends in the Efferendil - probably in the Glade because of the Astral link but possibly Walorin's House.
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imported>Ianlogic at 13:07, 16 April 2018

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	‘Children, laughter, song and feast’ = one of the outer planes or Heavens? Possibly Norse (see reference to Hel and Ragnarok in the ‘set-up’ verse). Song and feast sounds like Valhalla but not sure about children. Somewhere on '''Gladsheim'''?		‘Children, laughter, song and feast’ = one of the outer planes or Heavens? Possibly Norse (see reference to Hel and Ragnarok in the ‘set-up’ verse). Song and feast sounds like Valhalla but not sure about children. Somewhere on '''Gladsheim'''?

	We have stopped successfully at this point [[~~before\|~~Journal - The Lands of the Gods]].		We have stopped successfully at this point [[Journal - The Lands of the Gods\|before]].
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	\|When dreams have died past loss to live		\|When dreams have died past loss to live

imported>Ianlogic at 13:06, 16 April 2018

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	‘Children, laughter, song and feast’ = one of the outer planes or Heavens? Possibly Norse (see reference to Hel and Ragnarok in the ‘set-up’ verse). Song and feast sounds like Valhalla but not sure about children. Somewhere on '''Gladsheim'''?		‘Children, laughter, song and feast’ = one of the outer planes or Heavens? Possibly Norse (see reference to Hel and Ragnarok in the ‘set-up’ verse). Song and feast sounds like Valhalla but not sure about children. Somewhere on '''Gladsheim'''?

	We have stopped successfully at this point before.		We have stopped successfully at this point [[before\|Journal - The Lands of the Gods]].
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	\|When dreams have died past loss to live		\|When dreams have died past loss to live

imported>Ianlogic at 13:02, 16 April 2018

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	Grass is Green and Flowers Fair - so a 'paradise' plane - could be '''Arcadia''', '''Elysium''' or '''Dothion''' (Twin Paradises)		Grass is Green and Flowers Fair - so a 'paradise' plane - could be '''Arcadia''', '''Elysium''' or '''Dothion''' (Twin Paradises)

	~~The ‘setup’ verse may indicate the route/method of travel~~
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	\|But their light is locked in a little land:		\|But their light is locked in a little land:
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	\|'''(Lawful?) Evil'''		\|'''(Lawful?) Evil'''

	Gods with no comfort and care sounds like one of the Hells.		Gods with no comfort and care sounds like '''one of the Hells'''.

	‘I must go there’ so an unpleasant place		‘I must go there’ so an unpleasant place

	Don’t stop on this verse		''Don’t stop on this verse''
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	\|Trust me, my love, and let us depart		\|Trust me, my love, and let us depart
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	Liars could indicate '''Tarterus'''		Liars could indicate '''Tarterus'''

	Don’t stop here!		''Don’t stop here!''
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	\|I beg you my bride: my family, my friends		\|I beg you my bride: my family, my friends
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	‘bird with broken wing’ seems important!? Normally indicates one left behind when others have fled to warmer climates		‘bird with broken wing’ seems important!? Normally indicates one left behind when others have fled to warmer climates

	Tenuous but could refer to ‘Ice’, a place that healthy birds have all fled – fits with the Ice Giants of Ragnarok. Refers to a Norse event (Ragnarok) in a Greek-focused poem? ~~Could~~ be '''Niflheim'''?		Tenuous but could refer to ‘Ice’, a place that healthy birds have all fled – fits with the Ice Giants of Ragnarok. Refers to a Norse event (Ragnarok) in a Greek-focused poem? Therefore, could be '''Niflheim'''?
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	\|Stay here my love! There is life in the East -		\|Stay here my love! There is life in the East -
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	‘Children, laughter, song and feast’ = one of the outer planes or Heavens? Possibly Norse (see reference to Hel and Ragnarok in the ‘set-up’ verse). Song and feast sounds like Valhalla but not sure about children. Somewhere on '''Gladsheim'''?		‘Children, laughter, song and feast’ = one of the outer planes or Heavens? Possibly Norse (see reference to Hel and Ragnarok in the ‘set-up’ verse). Song and feast sounds like Valhalla but not sure about children. Somewhere on '''Gladsheim'''?

	~~This could be a ‘safe place’ to stop~~.		We have stopped successfully at this point before.
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	\|When dreams have died past loss to live		\|When dreams have died past loss to live

imported>Ianlogic at 12:56, 16 April 2018

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	\|'''Chaotic Good'''		\|'''Chaotic Good'''

	‘Children, laughter, song and feast’ = one of the outer planes or Heavens? Possibly Norse (see reference to Hel and Ragnarok in the ‘set-up’ verse). Song and feast sounds like Valhalla but not sure about children. ~~Could be somewhere~~ on '''Gladsheim'''?		‘Children, laughter, song and feast’ = one of the outer planes or Heavens? Possibly Norse (see reference to Hel and Ragnarok in the ‘set-up’ verse). Song and feast sounds like Valhalla but not sure about children. Somewhere on '''Gladsheim'''?

	This could be a ‘safe place’ to stop.		This could be a ‘safe place’ to stop.
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	\|'''Chaos'''		\|'''Chaos'''

	‘wander/wild’ and ‘A place of disturbance and change’ – a/the chaotic plane? – ~~Could be~~ '''Limbo''' ~~or otherwise could be Astral again~~.		‘wander/wild’ and ‘A place of disturbance and change’ – a/the chaotic plane? – Probably '''Limbo'''.
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	\|My love, I release the nets of my heart:		\|My love, I release the nets of my heart:

imported>Ianlogic at 12:53, 16 April 2018

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	I think this is just the intro that start the dweomer		I think this is just the intro that start the dweomer

			Read this before we enter the portal?
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	\|I see the stars a bright woven web,		\|I see the stars a bright woven web,

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	There's wonder enough in your smiling glance		There's wonder enough in your smiling glance

	To shatter the world and make mountains dance.		To shatter the world and make mountains dance.
	\|'''Chaotic Good'''		\|'''Chaotic Good'''

imported>Ianlogic at 15:02, 13 September 2017

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	‘bird with broken wing’ seems important!? Normally indicates one left behind when others have fled to warmer climates		‘bird with broken wing’ seems important!? Normally indicates one left behind when others have fled to warmer climates

	Tenuous but could refer to ‘Ice’, a place that healthy birds have all fled – fits with the Ice Giants of Ragnarok. Refers to a Norse event (Ragnarok) in a Greek-focused poem?		Tenuous but could refer to ‘Ice’, a place that healthy birds have all fled – fits with the Ice Giants of Ragnarok. Refers to a Norse event (Ragnarok) in a Greek-focused poem? Could be '''Niflheim'''?
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	\|Stay here my love! There is life in the East -		\|Stay here my love! There is life in the East -
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	\|'''Chaos'''		\|'''Chaos'''

	‘wander/wild’ and ‘A place of disturbance and change’ – ~~is there~~ a chaotic plane? – Could be '''Limbo''' or otherwise could be Astral again.		‘wander/wild’ and ‘A place of disturbance and change’ – a/the chaotic plane? – Could be '''Limbo''' or otherwise could be Astral again.
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	\|My love, I release the nets of my heart:		\|My love, I release the nets of my heart:
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	\|'''????/Good'''		\|'''????/Good'''

	This is, '''Ceriana''', the original Planar home of the Sea Elves (‘release the nets’), which the last party discovered by accident. ‘I can learn to live in alien lands’ – ~~suggests~~ that this plane is ‘survivable’.		This is, '''Ceriana''', the original Planar home of the Sea Elves (‘release the nets’), which the last party discovered by accident. ‘I can learn to live in alien lands’ – indicates that this plane is ‘survivable’.

	A possible place to stop and seek help		A possible place to stop and seek help
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	Setting up the final step into ‘paradise’		Setting up the final step into ‘paradise’

	using '''Astral''' travel again (‘star and tree’) ~~and possibly stepping via ‘Earth’~~		using '''Astral''' travel again (‘star and tree’)
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	\|I'll stay, my darling, and never roam;		\|I'll stay, my darling, and never roam;
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	\|'''Chaotic Good'''		\|'''Chaotic Good'''

	We know that they ended up in the Efferendil. A ‘shattered’ world is very similar to what you encounter in the Astral, with random pockets of land scattered amongst nothingness. I think the point here is that they are using the Astral to travel and then the natural Astral gate to re-renter the Prime in ~~Walroin’s~~ House in the Efferendil.		We know that they ended up in the Efferendil in the original story. A ‘shattered’ world is very similar to what you encounter in the Astral, with random pockets of land scattered amongst nothingness. I think the point here is that they are using the Astral to travel and then the natural Astral gate/portal to re-renter the Prime in [[Walorin]]’s House in the [[Efferendil]].

	Traversing the Inner Planes this puts us back to ‘square one’ in Walorin’s House when travelling via the Portal. Not sure what it would do travelling via the Glade Pool but it should still be CG...'''Olympus'''? or '''Mt Olympus on the Astral'''		Traversing the Inner Planes this puts us back to ‘square one’ in Walorin’s House when travelling via the Portal. Not sure what it would do travelling via the Glade Pool but it should still be CG...'''Olympus'''? or '''Mt Olympus on the Astral'''
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imported>Ianlogic at 14:03, 13 September 2017

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	We know that they ended up in the Efferendil. A ‘shattered’ world is very similar to what you encounter in the Astral, with random pockets of land scattered amongst nothingness. I think the point here is that they are using the Astral to travel and then the natural Astral gate to re-renter the Prime in Walroin’s House in the Efferendil.		We know that they ended up in the Efferendil. A ‘shattered’ world is very similar to what you encounter in the Astral, with random pockets of land scattered amongst nothingness. I think the point here is that they are using the Astral to travel and then the natural Astral gate to re-renter the Prime in Walroin’s House in the Efferendil.

	~~Puts~~ us back to ‘square one’ in Walorin’s House when travelling via the Portal. Not sure what it would do travelling via the Glade Pool but it ~~would~~ still be CG...		Traversing the Inner Planes this puts us back to ‘square one’ in Walorin’s House when travelling via the Portal. Not sure what it would do travelling via the Glade Pool but it should still be CG...'''Olympus'''? or '''Mt Olympus on the Astral'''
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