Palantirs - Revision history

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Current ownership of Palantirs:

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	1a - Astral (Maedus) - '''Orcus''' ''(taken from Fremar the Norseman when Gos fell?)''		1a - Astral (Maedus) - '''Orcus''' ''(taken from Fremar the Norseman when Gos fell?)''

	1b - Astral (Efferendil) - '''Baldir''' (temporarily for safe-guarding)		1b - Astral (Efferendil) - '''Baldir''' (temporarily for safe-guarding)

	1? - ''a Palantir was created each time a natural gate was discovered and there are multiple gates to the Astral...''		1? - ''a Palantir was created each time a natural gate was discovered and there are multiple gates to the Astral...''

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	1 - Astral (Maedus) - '''Orcus''' ''(taken from Fremar the Norseman when Gos fell?)''		1a - Astral (Maedus) - '''Orcus''' ''(taken from Fremar the Norseman when Gos fell?)''
			1b - Astral (Efferendil) - '''Baldir''' (temporarily for safe-guarding)
			1? - ''a Palantir was created each time a natural gate was discovered and there are multiple gates to the Astral...''

	2 - '''Inwe'''		2 - '''Inwe'''

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	7 - '''Ichsoos'''		7 - '''Ichsoos'''

	8 - '''~~Lord Marin~~''' (Morgul en route to Maedus - ~~did we reclaim~~ it?)		8 - '''Lan Zi Bao''' (Morgul en route to Maedus - reclaimed it from Lord Marin) - NE - Fire

	9 - '''Lan Zi Bao''' (was Balfor's? Found by us in Olga)		9 - '''Lan Zi Bao''' (was Balfor's? Found by us in Olga) - Ethereal - LN

			10 - '''Lan Zi Bao''' Water - LE

imported>Ianlogic at 14:34, 30 September 2016

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	Palantirs can be used to communicate across both Space and Time		Palantirs can be used to communicate across both Space and Time

	There are believed to be 9 Palantirs.		There are believed to be 9 Palantirs and they have an alignment (Law vs Chaos/Good vs Evil) as well as being linked to gates

	Palantirs were created by Lastar to control the Pentagram Gates (not the natural portals) and lock them to their host dwarrowdelfs. Some of the Palantirs were formed using material from the natural portals.		Palantirs were created by Lastar to control the Pentagram Gates (not the natural portals) and lock them to their host dwarrowdelfs. Some of the Palantirs were formed using material from the natural portals.

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	3 - Earth (Aarda) - '''Demogorgon'''		3 - Earth (Aarda) - '''Demogorgon'''

	4 - ~~Prime/Control -~~ Gwendolyn had one when she fled Sutur - where is it now (need to ask her!)?		4 - ''Gwendolyn had one when she fled Sutur'' - where is it now (need to ask her!)?

	5 - '''Perion'''?		5 - '''Perion'''?
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	9 - '''Lan Zi Bao''' (was Balfor's? Found by us in Olga)		9 - '''Lan Zi Bao''' (was Balfor's? Found by us in Olga)


	Fremar (Norseman) had a palantir (from Maedus - now with Orcus?) and used it to speak with Perion.		Fremar (Norseman) had a palantir (from Maedus - now with Orcus?) and used it to speak with Perion.

	Perion ~~who also had one (Delivered~~ to Gos by Bavarik himself) - see above re Fremar		Perion's palantir was delivered to Gos by Bavarik himself in the 2nd Age - see above re Fremar. Not clear where Bavarik got it from (it could be the original Sutur palantir?)

	Rantor/Tuar Chan had one but we took it		Rantor/Tuar Chan had one but we took it
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	Yishmay has one (that we gave her)		Yishmay has one (that we gave her)

			While in Morgul we left one in the care of Lord Marin but not clear if we took it back or left it with him. If we took it back then Morwath may have one?

	== Planar Alignment ==		== Planar Alignment ==

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			== Background ==


	Palantirs can be used to communicate across both Space and Time		Palantirs can be used to communicate across both Space and Time

	There are believed to be 9 Palantirs.		There are believed to be 9 Palantirs.

	Palantirs were created by Lastar to control the Gates and lock them to their host dwarrowdelfs. Some of the Palantirs were formed using material from the natural ~~gates~~.		Palantirs were created by Lastar to control the Pentagram Gates (not the natural portals) and lock them to their host dwarrowdelfs. Some of the Palantirs were formed using material from the natural portals.

	Every Palantir thus has a natural ~~gate~~ alignment but this is not immediately obvious.		Every Palantir thus has a natural planar alignment but this is not immediately obvious.

	It was the act of removing the Palantirs from their host dwarrodelfs that caused the gates to become unlocked		It was the act of removing the Palantirs from their host dwarrodelfs that caused the gates to become unlocked

	Current ownership of Palantirs:
			== Current ownership of Palantirs: ==


	1 - Astral (Maedus) - '''Orcus''' ''(taken from Fremar the Norseman when Gos fell?)''		1 - Astral (Maedus) - '''Orcus''' ''(taken from Fremar the Norseman when Gos fell?)''
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	Yishmay has one (that we gave her)		Yishmay has one (that we gave her)


			== Planar Alignment ==


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	== 1st Age ==
			== Some relevant history ==

			'''1st Age'''

	563E		563E
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	The Palantirs. '''Lastar creates the scrying stones so that his armies would not be surprised again.''' As Lastar retakes the land, they are placed as follows: Minas Tiris, Morgul, Maedus, Emras, Aarda and Bolgar and Sutur. (1st Age History)		The Palantirs. '''Lastar creates the scrying stones so that his armies would not be surprised again.''' As Lastar retakes the land, they are placed as follows: Minas Tiris, Morgul, Maedus, Emras, Aarda and Bolgar and Sutur. (1st Age History)

	== 2nd Age ==		'''2nd Age'''

	670E		670E

	[[Rantor]] attacks [[Minas Tiris]] via the gate to the Plane of Fire; he discovers a Palantir and [[Gundleus]]’ 6th part of the Crown. [[Gondoloin]], [[Gundleus]]’ son, retreats to [[Ashore]]. (2nd Age History)		[[Rantor]] attacks [[Minas Tiris]] via the gate to the Plane of Fire; he discovers a Palantir and [[Gundleus]]’ 6th part of the Crown. [[Gondoloin]], [[Gundleus]]’ son, retreats to [[Ashore]]. (2nd Age History)

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	1 - Astral (Maedus) - Orcus ''(taken from Fremar the Norseman when Gos fell?)''		1 - Astral (Maedus) - '''Orcus''' ''(taken from Fremar the Norseman when Gos fell?)''

	2 - Inwe		2 - '''Inwe'''

	3 - Earth (Aarda) - Demogorgon		3 - Earth (Aarda) - '''Demogorgon'''

	4 - Prime/Control - Gwendolyn had one when she fled Sutur - where is it now (need to ask her!)?		4 - Prime/Control - Gwendolyn had one when she fled Sutur - where is it now (need to ask her!)?

	5 - Perion?		5 - '''Perion'''?

	6 - Yishmay		6 - '''Yishmay'''

	7 - Ichsoos		7 - '''Ichsoos'''

	8 - Lord Marin (did we reclaim it?)		8 - '''Lord Marin''' (Morgul en route to Maedus - did we reclaim it?)

	9 - Lan Zi Bao (was Balfor's? Found by us in Olga)		9 - '''Lan Zi Bao''' (was Balfor's? Found by us in Olga)

	Fremar (Norseman) had a palantir (from Maedus - now with Orcus?) and used it to speak with Perion.		Fremar (Norseman) had a palantir (from Maedus - now with Orcus?) and used it to speak with Perion.

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	5 - Perion?		5 - Perion?

	6 - ~~Rantor?~~		6 - Yishmay

	7 - Ichsoos		7 - Ichsoos

	8 - Lord Marin (did we reclaim it?) ~~/ Yishmay?~~		8 - Lord Marin (did we reclaim it?)

	9 - Lan Zi Bao (was Balfor's? Found by us in Olga)		9 - Lan Zi Bao (was Balfor's? Found by us in Olga)

	Fremar (Norseman) had a palantir (from Maedus - now with Orcus) and used it to speak with Perion.		Fremar (Norseman) had a palantir (from Maedus - now with Orcus?) and used it to speak with Perion.

	Perion who also had one (Delivered to Gos by Bavarik himself) - see above re Fremar		Perion who also had one (Delivered to Gos by Bavarik himself) - see above re Fremar

	Rantor/Tuar Chan had one		Rantor/Tuar Chan had one but we took it

	Yishmay has one (that we gave her)		Yishmay has one (that we gave her)

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	7 - Ichsoos		7 - Ichsoos

	8 - Lord Marin (~~Morgul - might now be in Maedus~~)		8 - Lord Marin (did we reclaim it?) / Yishmay?

	9 - Lan Zi Bao (was Balfor's? Found by us in Olga)		9 - Lan Zi Bao (was Balfor's? Found by us in Olga)

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	Rantor/Tuar Chan had one		Rantor/Tuar Chan had one

			Yishmay has one (that we gave her)