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== Background ==
Palantirs can be used to communicate across both Space and Time
Palantirs can be used to communicate across both Space and Time


There are believed to be 9 Palantirs.
There are believed to be 9 Palantirs.


Palantirs were created by Lastar to control the Gates and lock them to their host dwarrowdelfs.  Some of the Palantirs were formed using material from the natural gates.
Palantirs were created by Lastar to control the Pentagram Gates (not the natural portals) and lock them to their host dwarrowdelfs.  Some of the Palantirs were formed using material from the natural portals.


Every Palantir thus has a natural gate alignment but this is not immediately obvious.
Every Palantir thus has a natural planar alignment but this is not immediately obvious.


It was the act of removing the Palantirs from their host dwarrodelfs that caused the gates to become unlocked  
It was the act of removing the Palantirs from their host dwarrodelfs that caused the gates to become unlocked  


Current ownership of Palantirs:
 
== Current ownership of Palantirs: ==
 


1 - Astral (Maedus) - '''Orcus''' ''(taken from Fremar the Norseman when Gos fell?)''
1 - Astral (Maedus) - '''Orcus''' ''(taken from Fremar the Norseman when Gos fell?)''
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Yishmay has one (that we gave her)
Yishmay has one (that we gave her)
== Planar Alignment ==




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== 1st Age ==
 
== Some relevant history ==
 
'''1st Age'''


563E
563E
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The Palantirs. '''Lastar creates the scrying stones so that his armies would not be surprised again.''' As Lastar retakes the land, they are placed as follows: Minas Tiris, Morgul, Maedus, Emras, Aarda and Bolgar and Sutur. (1st Age History)
The Palantirs. '''Lastar creates the scrying stones so that his armies would not be surprised again.''' As Lastar retakes the land, they are placed as follows: Minas Tiris, Morgul, Maedus, Emras, Aarda and Bolgar and Sutur. (1st Age History)


== 2nd Age ==
'''2nd Age'''


670E
670E


[[Rantor]] attacks [[Minas Tiris]] via the gate to the Plane of Fire; he discovers a Palantir and [[Gundleus]]’ 6th part of the Crown. [[Gondoloin]], [[Gundleus]]’ son, retreats to [[Ashore]]. (2nd Age History)
[[Rantor]] attacks [[Minas Tiris]] via the gate to the Plane of Fire; he discovers a Palantir and [[Gundleus]]’ 6th part of the Crown. [[Gondoloin]], [[Gundleus]]’ son, retreats to [[Ashore]]. (2nd Age History)

Revision as of 13:03, 17 February 2016

Background

Palantirs can be used to communicate across both Space and Time

There are believed to be 9 Palantirs.

Palantirs were created by Lastar to control the Pentagram Gates (not the natural portals) and lock them to their host dwarrowdelfs. Some of the Palantirs were formed using material from the natural portals.

Every Palantir thus has a natural planar alignment but this is not immediately obvious.

It was the act of removing the Palantirs from their host dwarrodelfs that caused the gates to become unlocked


Current ownership of Palantirs:

1 - Astral (Maedus) - Orcus (taken from Fremar the Norseman when Gos fell?)

2 - Inwe

3 - Earth (Aarda) - Demogorgon

4 - Prime/Control - Gwendolyn had one when she fled Sutur - where is it now (need to ask her!)?

5 - Perion?

6 - Yishmay

7 - Ichsoos

8 - Lord Marin (Morgul en route to Maedus - did we reclaim it?)

9 - Lan Zi Bao (was Balfor's? Found by us in Olga)

Fremar (Norseman) had a palantir (from Maedus - now with Orcus?) and used it to speak with Perion.

Perion who also had one (Delivered to Gos by Bavarik himself) - see above re Fremar

Rantor/Tuar Chan had one but we took it

Yishmay has one (that we gave her)


Planar Alignment

Lastar set up his pentagrams after the swap between fire and water the Drow had brought about; the palantirs should match the original pentagrams:

Air - Emras; Zem (living in Minas Emras) receives the blue Ring of Air.

Earth - Aarda; Hamar (living in Minas Aarda) receives the green Ring of Earth.

Fire - Tiris; Dor (living in Minas Tiris) receives the indigo Ring of Water.

Water - Morgul; Ishtur (living in Minas Morgul) receives the red Ring of Fire.

Astral - Maedus

Ethereal - Olga

Negative - Zundar

Positive - Blaven's Pool

Sutur - Control/Prime


Some relevant history

1st Age

563E

The Palantirs. Lastar creates the scrying stones so that his armies would not be surprised again. As Lastar retakes the land, they are placed as follows: Minas Tiris, Morgul, Maedus, Emras, Aarda and Bolgar and Sutur. (1st Age History)

2nd Age

670E

Rantor attacks Minas Tiris via the gate to the Plane of Fire; he discovers a Palantir and Gundleus’ 6th part of the Crown. Gondoloin, Gundleus’ son, retreats to Ashore. (2nd Age History)