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Their beauty and wisdom, so let us go there!
Their beauty and wisdom, so let us go there!
|I think this is just the intro that start the dweomer
| '''Setup / Intro'''
 
I think this is just the intro that start the dweomer
 
Read this before we enter the portal?
|-
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|I see the stars a bright woven web,
|I see the stars a bright woven web,
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This land I love, so why must I leave?
This land I love, so why must I leave?
|Stars = Astral
|'''Travel'''
 
Stars = Astral


Tree = Ygdrassil = Astral
Tree = Ygdrassil = Astral
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In lands the Gods comfort and care!
In lands the Gods comfort and care!
|Another ‘intro’ Stanza that leaves behind the Astral to travel via…?  ‘Brighter far’ could be Radiance - so it probably borders Radiance or other bright-shining plane?
|'''Neutral Good'''
 
Another ‘intro’ Stanza that leaves behind the Astral to travel via…?  ‘Brighter far’ could be Radiance - so it probably borders Radiance or other bright-shining plane?


Possibly a pattern where one verse sets up a plane shift and the next identifies the target Plane
Possibly a pattern where one verse sets up a plane shift and the next identifies the target Plane
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Grass is Green and Flowers Fair - so a 'paradise' plane - could be '''Arcadia''', '''Elysium''' or '''Dothion''' (Twin Paradises)
Grass is Green and Flowers Fair - so a 'paradise' plane - could be '''Arcadia''', '''Elysium''' or '''Dothion''' (Twin Paradises)


The ‘setup’ verse may indicate the route/method of travel
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|But their light is locked in a little land:
|But their light is locked in a little land:
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For the land I love that I must go there?
For the land I love that I must go there?
|Gods with no comfort and care sounds like one of the Hells.
|'''(Lawful?) Evil'''
 
Gods with no comfort and care sounds like '''one of the Hells'''.


‘I must go there’ so an unpleasant place
‘I must go there’ so an unpleasant place


Don’t stop on this verse
''Don’t stop on this verse''
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|Trust me, my love, and let us depart
|Trust me, my love, and let us depart
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Past plains and mountain, forest and heather!
Past plains and mountain, forest and heather!
|‘Let us depart’ – so another verse that sets you in transit again..
|'''Neutral Good / Chaotic Good'''
 
‘Let us depart’ – so another verse that sets you in transit again..


Travel via '''Happy Hunting Grounds'''?
Travel via '''Happy Hunting Grounds'''?
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That terrible rider on his terrible steed?
That terrible rider on his terrible steed?
|Deeper into the Hells/Abyss!
|'''Chaotic Evil'''
 
Deeper into the Hells/Abyss!


Liars could indicate '''Tarterus'''
Liars could indicate '''Tarterus'''


Don’t stop here!
''Don’t stop here!''
|-
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|I beg you my bride: my family, my friends
|I beg you my bride: my family, my friends
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I stand, a bird with broken wing.
I stand, a bird with broken wing.
|‘Pack, prepare…’ = another bpt move…
|'''Neutral Evil'''
 
‘Pack, prepare…’ = another bpt move…


‘bird with broken wing’ seems important!?  Normally indicates one left behind when others have fled to warmer climates
‘bird with broken wing’ seems important!?  Normally indicates one left behind when others have fled to warmer climates


Tenuous but could refer to ‘Ice’, a place that healthy birds have all fled – fits with the Ice Giants of Ragnarok.  Refers to a Norse event (Ragnarok) in a Greek-focused poem?
Tenuous but could refer to ‘Ice’, a place that healthy birds have all fled – fits with the Ice Giants of Ragnarok.  Refers to a Norse event (Ragnarok) in a Greek-focused poem?  Therefore, could be '''Niflheim'''?
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|Stay here my love! There is life in the East -
|Stay here my love! There is life in the East -
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To live here alone, if you were not there!
To live here alone, if you were not there!
|‘Children, laughter, song and feast’ = one of the outer planes or Heavens?  Possibly Norse (see reference to Hel and Ragnarok in the ‘set-up’ verse).  Song and feast sounds like Valhalla but not sure about children.  Could be somewhere on '''Gladsheim'''?
|'''Chaotic Good'''


This could be a ‘safe place’ to stop.
‘Children, laughter, song and feast’ = one of the outer planes or Heavens?  Possibly Norse (see reference to Hel and Ragnarok in the ‘set-up’ verse).  Song and feast sounds like Valhalla but not sure about children.  Somewhere on '''Gladsheim'''?
 
We have stopped successfully at this point [[Journal - The Lands of the Gods|before]].
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|When dreams have died past loss to live
|When dreams have died past loss to live
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A captive that sorrows and seldom can sing.
A captive that sorrows and seldom can sing.
|‘where love’s a lock and beauty binds’ – I am thinking Greek (Athena / Persephone)
|'''Lawful Evil'''
 
‘where love’s a lock and beauty binds’ – I am thinking Greek (Athena / Persephone)


Dreams have died = loss of hope = Hades
Dreams have died = loss of hope = '''Hades'''
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|Never, my love! I cannot savour
|Never, my love! I cannot savour
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Torn from this land because I love you.
Torn from this land because I love you.
|‘a captive’s love…’ = Persephone’s garden I think
|'''Neutral Evil'''
‘a captive’s love…’ = '''Persephone’s garden''' I think


Don’t stop here
Don’t stop here
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Where your heart must delight in disturbance and change.
Where your heart must delight in disturbance and change.
|‘wander/wild’ and ‘A place of disturbance and change’ – is there a chaotic plane? – Could be Limbo or otherwise could be Astral again.
|'''Chaos'''
 
‘wander/wild’ and ‘A place of disturbance and change’ – a/the chaotic plane? – Probably '''Limbo'''.
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|My love, I release the nets of my heart:
|My love, I release the nets of my heart:
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And hold my safety in open hands.
And hold my safety in open hands.
|This sounds a little like the original Planar home of the Sea Elves (‘release the nets’), which the last party discovered by accident.  ‘I can learn to live in alien lands’ – suggests that this plane is ‘survivable’.
|'''????/Good'''
 
This is, '''Ceriana''', the original Planar home of the Sea Elves (‘release the nets’), which the last party discovered by accident.  ‘I can learn to live in alien lands’ – indicates that this plane is ‘survivable’.


A possible place to stop and seek help
A possible place to stop and seek help
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More precious than gems cut by cunning art!
More precious than gems cut by cunning art!
|Setting up the final step into ‘paradise’
|'''Lawful Good / Travel'''


using Astral travel again (‘star and tree’) and possibly stepping via ‘Earth’
Setting up the final step into ‘paradise’
 
using '''Astral''' travel again (‘star and tree’)
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|I'll stay, my darling, and never roam;
|I'll stay, my darling, and never roam;
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There's wonder enough in your smiling glance
There's wonder enough in your smiling glance
To shatter the world and make mountains dance.
To shatter the world and make mountains dance.
|We know that they ended up in the Efferendil.  A ‘shattered’ world is very similar to what you encounter in the Astral, with random pockets of land scattered amongst nothingness.  I think the point here is that they are using the Astral to travel and then the natural Astral gate to re-renter the Prime in Walroin’s House in the Efferendil.
|'''Chaotic Good'''
 
We know that they ended up in the Efferendil in the original story.  A ‘shattered’ world is very similar to what you encounter in the Astral, with random pockets of land scattered amongst nothingness.  I think the point here is that they are using the Astral to travel and then the natural Astral gate/portal to re-renter the Prime in [[Walorin]]’s House in the [[Efferendil]].


Puts us back to ‘square one’ in Walorin’s House
This ends in the '''Efferendil''' - probably in the Glade because of the Astral link but possibly Walorin's House.
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Latest revision as of 13:11, 16 April 2018

Original Decode
Come with me, love! There is light in the West

Where Two Trees illumine the land they have blessed!

Come with me, love! The Gods will share

Their beauty and wisdom, so let us go there!

Setup / Intro

I think this is just the intro that start the dweomer

Read this before we enter the portal?

I see the stars a bright woven web,

The fountains flowing, the tangled trees.

Such beauty beholding, why must I wander?

Why must I grieve?

This land I love, so why must I leave?

Travel

Stars = Astral

Tree = Ygdrassil = Astral

So the first step of the song is through the Astral, which makes sense because it connects to everything.

Stop here and we are on the Astral

Come with me, love! The Western sky

Is brighter far than stars on high!

The grass is green, the flowers fair

In lands the Gods comfort and care!

Neutral Good

Another ‘intro’ Stanza that leaves behind the Astral to travel via…? ‘Brighter far’ could be Radiance - so it probably borders Radiance or other bright-shining plane?

Possibly a pattern where one verse sets up a plane shift and the next identifies the target Plane

Grass is Green and Flowers Fair - so a 'paradise' plane - could be Arcadia, Elysium or Dothion (Twin Paradises)

But their light is locked in a little land:

Their wisdom withdrawn and their homeland hidden

Beyond the bounds of the world we know.

Why have these Gods no comfort and care

For the land I love that I must go there?

(Lawful?) Evil

Gods with no comfort and care sounds like one of the Hells.

‘I must go there’ so an unpleasant place

Don’t stop on this verse

Trust me, my love, and let us depart

Together is home and comfort of heart!

The Hunter's horse will lead us together

Past plains and mountain, forest and heather!

Neutral Good / Chaotic Good

‘Let us depart’ – so another verse that sets you in transit again..

Travel via Happy Hunting Grounds?

Yes, shadows are swift! And terrors have tracked us

Lurking and laughing with evil eyes.

We wavered not, nor hid in holes

Nor faltered in fear nor let liars lure us!

So why should I heed

That terrible rider on his terrible steed?

Chaotic Evil

Deeper into the Hells/Abyss!

Liars could indicate Tarterus

Don’t stop here!

I beg you my bride: my family, my friends

Pack, prepare like buzzing bees.

Hel gathers, Ragnarock near,

They laugh, they sing:

I stand, a bird with broken wing.

Neutral Evil

‘Pack, prepare…’ = another bpt move…

‘bird with broken wing’ seems important!? Normally indicates one left behind when others have fled to warmer climates

Tenuous but could refer to ‘Ice’, a place that healthy birds have all fled – fits with the Ice Giants of Ragnarok. Refers to a Norse event (Ragnarok) in a Greek-focused poem? Therefore, could be Niflheim?

Stay here my love! There is life in the East -

Children, laughter, song and feast.

Stay with me, love! I could not bear

To live here alone, if you were not there!

Chaotic Good

‘Children, laughter, song and feast’ = one of the outer planes or Heavens? Possibly Norse (see reference to Hel and Ragnarok in the ‘set-up’ verse). Song and feast sounds like Valhalla but not sure about children. Somewhere on Gladsheim?

We have stopped successfully at this point before.

When dreams have died past loss to live

Is hard, for hunger hews the heart.

When love's a lock and beauty binds,

The heart's a fragile thing:

A captive that sorrows and seldom can sing.

Lawful Evil

‘where love’s a lock and beauty binds’ – I am thinking Greek (Athena / Persephone)

Dreams have died = loss of hope = Hades

Never, my love! I cannot savour

A captive's love, or grudging favour.

Go if you must, then I must go too,

Torn from this land because I love you.

Neutral Evil

‘a captive’s love…’ = Persephone’s garden I think

Don’t stop here

My bride, beware - I know your nature:

You seek out safety, haven, and home.

To wander wild is care not comfort,

In lands foreign and strange:

Where your heart must delight in disturbance and change.

Chaos

‘wander/wild’ and ‘A place of disturbance and change’ – a/the chaotic plane? – Probably Limbo.

My love, I release the nets of my heart:

Our home is together, do not stand apart!

I can learn to live in alien lands

And hold my safety in open hands.

????/Good

This is, Ceriana, the original Planar home of the Sea Elves (‘release the nets’), which the last party discovered by accident. ‘I can learn to live in alien lands’ – indicates that this plane is ‘survivable’.

A possible place to stop and seek help

Forget such words, let us sing together!

Of beauty in star, and tree, and heather!

If you love this land, this land's my heart,

More precious than gems cut by cunning art!

Lawful Good / Travel

Setting up the final step into ‘paradise’

using Astral travel again (‘star and tree’)

I'll stay, my darling, and never roam;

Love's my adventure, your eyes my home.

There's wonder enough in your smiling glance

To shatter the world and make mountains dance.

Chaotic Good

We know that they ended up in the Efferendil in the original story. A ‘shattered’ world is very similar to what you encounter in the Astral, with random pockets of land scattered amongst nothingness. I think the point here is that they are using the Astral to travel and then the natural Astral gate/portal to re-renter the Prime in Walorin’s House in the Efferendil.

This ends in the Efferendil - probably in the Glade because of the Astral link but possibly Walorin's House.